AI Toy Wars

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00:00:00Welcome to ThinkDifferent, ThinkAI, the podcast by Mark and Jens.

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00:00:34Hello everyone, it’s that time again.

00:00:37Have you been waiting long? No, because I only ever drop hints closely together, seven days.

00:00:43Mark and I are trying to be more consistent with our podcast output.

00:00:48That means we’ve been aiming for a weekly rhythm for a long time now.

00:00:53To be honest, we’ve only managed that since this summer, since we started, Mark.

00:00:58Have we achieved it?

00:01:00Yes, and above all, I remember I released an episode, and then you spoke very firmly to me

00:01:05from your close family environment.

00:01:08So we really need to show a bit more consistency to get followers here.

00:01:13So there was the episode quickly.

00:01:16Episode quickly, isn’t that nice?

00:01:18Yes, but no worries. First of all, a warm welcome to you who have subscribed, to the new

00:01:32listeners who are joining us. You are welcome guests in Mark's and my podcast about AI.

00:01:39It’s called Think Different, Think AI. Mark and I have been colleagues for a long time,

00:01:44and we decided to make this podcast this summer. We love talking about AI; we do it

00:01:50both professionally and privately, we read a lot on the subject and surround ourselves with it, and we just need to talk about it,

00:01:56to make a bit of sense of it ourselves, and from time to time, yesterday we even had our podcast,

00:02:01where we discuss these topics. Today, it's just the two of us and we're talking about the

00:02:07Topic, because it's currently relevant, AI and Christmas gifts. In today's episode

00:02:13we want to take a little look at what kind of gifts can be generated with AI

00:02:19? Or what gifts might be available if you find yourself underneath the Christmas tree

00:02:24that involve AI? And that's a bit of the topic we want to discuss with you today,

00:02:29because there's quite a bit happening. We've actually already talked about something similar

00:02:35in an episode before, that essentially at some point

00:02:39maybe you could put the teddy bear with AI among the Christmas roast. And

00:02:44to be honest, yes, you can find such teddy bears at Amazon and Google

00:02:49to order. Well, I don't have one yet. I was just about to ask. No,

00:02:53of course not yet. So I don't really know, I mean there are

00:02:57honestly a lot of questions. Well, if I say I have one now,

00:03:00ChatsGPT variant that we know, or Gemini, something else,

00:03:06where I say, no matter what guardrails I give to this thing, they can all potentially

00:03:10still be convinced to tell something weird through some kind of trick.

00:03:14I'm not so sure if I would want such an omnipotent, all-knowing AI that might

00:03:19have been banned from this teddy bear by some developer in the world,

00:03:24locally, who then tried to ensure with all sorts of guardrails that it also

00:03:27wouldn't tell my child any weird things under the blanket or

00:03:32I'm still not so sure if I would approach it like that, to be honest.

00:03:36I think it's nice how you start this episode with what kind of gift ideas you could,

00:03:41right away with the risk. I would say, a threat to privacy, data protection.

00:03:47So for those who haven't switched off yet, but I believe there's some hope for the episode.

00:03:52So from that perspective, let's first focus on the bright sides,

00:03:56then perhaps a bit of risk, we'll see.

00:03:59Yes, although, as I said, I'm a big fan of us first falling with the door into the house and letting it end positively thereafter.

00:04:10We've already discussed this topic, I believe we won't experience this winter that the different toys will be pushing each other down to gain the child's favor, so to speak.

00:04:24That's probably going to be the case only next year, but I mean, we have to be realistic.

00:04:30We also talked about it, there was this test this year, where I believe in Asia,

00:04:37a test was conducted where a small robot drove into a factory

00:04:42and the other robots in that factory convinced the others to go home.

00:04:46And they all followed him, the lemmings, and drove out.

00:04:49So this is not just a theoretical fantasy from two nerds making a podcast,

00:04:56but it's actually a very, very real future scenario that if we talk about robots in the real

00:05:02world, whether they are humanoid robots or the little quadcopter or the

00:05:10small droid that drives around or my vacuum robot, which somehow is suddenly more capable,

00:05:15than it used to be, because it might contain a neural network and can react to the

00:05:23world around it and also respond to others who are talking to it.

00:05:28How should it know that I am the one telling it to vacuum? Or whether that's essentially the,

00:05:36let's say, competing vacuum robot from my neighbor, who loudly came up

00:05:42shortly before, drove over briefly, and said it was jumping out of the window and

00:05:47I know, I think these are future scenarios, but you are right, we're just before

00:05:52Christmas, we are in the Christmas season, we can gladly move on to the nicer topic,

00:05:56I wanted to... So I would say, regardless of how one feels

00:06:01about technology, if you have AI in toys and now I'm not thinking of

00:06:06toys where you would say, hey the market would like a new drone that also

00:06:10better in hand and tracks people, so not tracking people, but for the

00:06:15video recording. That even with a toddler or during youth, you have opportunities,

00:06:23with the help of AI, which hides in objects, like teddy bears, dinosaurs, any

00:06:31building blocks. One always has to be careful not to lose naming rights. Building blocks,

00:06:36construction systems with motors, if something like that is included, can definitely support playful

00:06:44learning, because the system can explain things to you, it can perhaps

00:06:51also help with other physical objects, like a Tony Box,

00:06:58you can certainly say this, compared to a building block figure,

00:07:02where you place a figure on top and a story is told, yes, if you think about it,

00:07:05perhaps such things are no longer government stories, but dynamic stories

00:07:09that the children, the youth, can influence the story in whatever way,

00:07:14they want.

00:07:15There are already things possible that, I would say, yes, a few months,

00:07:22weeks, years, however one wants to classify the time, the technology was lacking

00:07:27to do that.

00:07:28Totally.

00:07:29Totally.

00:07:30Yes.

00:07:31And also, above all, much more individual.

00:07:32That naturally comes in addition.

00:07:33Because you have this possibility. It's highly personalized. You can

00:07:37also really say, if a child has any learning difficulties

00:07:43or any other constraints, you can much more strongly

00:07:46of course addressing the topic. That I say, just like one might have said in the past,

00:07:51one is good at math and the other is good at something else.

00:07:54An AI can certainly take this into account and help the child

00:08:00learn something, to continue telling the story. You don't have to let everything

00:08:05run strictly scripted, but can essentially also promote the creativity of the

00:08:10child by truly involving the child interactively and also

00:08:14engaging the child in this case. So I believe this is a totally positive

00:08:20development. We're just going out now. Let's leave data protection aside, otherwise it's

00:08:24just that it comes to us as adults, or everything is almost networked, or, oh, the teddy

00:08:31said, but they should do that.

00:08:32Yes.

00:08:33If we ignore these dangers, then the positive side is enormous.

00:08:38I would have loved that as a child, honestly, when I played with my plastic toys

00:08:42always in the sand, yes, I used to play tabletop games

00:08:47or played role-playing games as well, when I say you can basically just

00:08:51also good that we played together, played in a room.

00:08:55Still, it would have been a bit cool if in such situations

00:08:59maybe the competing figure by the sea or something else would also have a bit of

00:09:06artificial intelligence or could talk to you, that would have been quite

00:09:09cool.

00:09:10Just imagine, it's a role-playing game and then the character falls over and says,

00:09:14ah, I've been hit.

00:09:15Well, I have ten hit points less than I did before or something and have to

00:09:18not write it down anywhere or anything else. That's already a cool story that can happen

00:09:23because I had this thing, where you say with the interact, I once saw something nice,

00:09:27I think it was something, like a wooden toy,

00:09:32which contains RFID chips, like a boat, a Viking, a dragon or something.

00:09:38And depending on how you place it on a board, the AI tells a different

00:09:42story. So, if you want, similar to a Tony Box, you know, a further development,

00:09:47this theme, that I say, I have multiple figures that I can maybe take

00:09:51and depending on how I might place them in a room, maybe I have

00:09:54houses, I can push them in there, then they'll tell different stories, they can actually

00:09:58continue telling the next day, like how it has been overnight or during the day,

00:10:02when I then somehow come home or something, there's really a lot of

00:10:06it seems to me possible, to honestly get the kids a bit away from the two-dimensional

00:10:15phone, tablet or other things and bring them back stronger into the physical space

00:10:19again.

00:10:20That's actually pretty cool, because I mean, all the time, I am, well I'm not

00:10:24free from guilt, so I can't really throw the first stone, but in a time,

00:10:29where a lot is done on flickering screens, whether it was earlier the

00:10:34TV, yes, back then kids didn’t watch too much TV, today it's the

00:10:38phone, yes, take the phone away from them, I still remember, greetings

00:10:42to my parents, you’ll get a computer. If you do better in your English grades,

00:10:45a good English grade, where I wasn't better in school, eventually I did get a computer,

00:10:48but that's another topic. Now you can do it with like, I don't know, toys,

00:10:54Teddy bears, Mindstorm, Makeblock, whatever these things are called from the different

00:10:58manufacturers, for various age groups and interests, toys where you

00:11:03assemble something with your fingers, interact with your fingers, maybe interact with your voice,

00:11:08you get the kids talking more, trying things out more,

00:11:15perhaps that way you can also get the topic of reading back under

00:11:19control, yeah, that's also a topic that when you listen in on the schools,

00:11:22the whole thing, when did a child last read a good

00:11:25book or a bad one or at all, yeah, apart from just

00:11:30constantly scrolling through TikToks, so getting away from the screen to

00:11:35the physical world, because the physical world suddenly, well, that sounds like

00:11:40a sudden thought, yeah, especially when my parents listen in again and think,

00:11:43hey, it wasn't that boring after all, now you're saying you'll bring her back and

00:11:48the reward system of humans is supported by the fact that they experience something in real life

00:11:52again, and through the AI networking stories, one simply has the

00:11:59opportunity to spend both the playful and the

00:12:03developmental aspects together again, bringing people back together

00:12:08to bring it into reality. Yes, that's true, and that's actually something I would say, ]**[00:12:14]** that might be, we often talk about the topic of AI adaptations

00:12:14that's perhaps also, we often talk about the topic of AI adoption

00:12:19in the professional environment, in the private environment, that will be the topic of AI adaptation

00:12:26perhaps drive it forward even faster, especially among this younger target group.

00:12:31So I think we all remember those cute, maybe a bit also

00:12:37strange images that existed for a while when you saw small children

00:12:40has, as they tried in magazines, where there are pictures in the magazines

00:12:45to do with a swipe or pinch gesture, exactly, because of course in principle

00:12:51through this use of touch phones and tablets has already been learned very, very early

00:12:56by children, how things are supposed to behave.

00:12:59I think that's also one of those things where I say, this expectation, how we often

00:13:05talked about it, that the expectation of many people was, when they see a Chatchi-PT-Gemini,

00:13:10they also always see a search box where they can type in, that they first

00:13:14submit a search query because they are used to that from Google.

00:13:17So it will naturally be the same for our children and the young ones who are

00:13:22growing up. For them, the AI that fascinates us, that still seems a bit magical to us

00:13:27and that is risky for us, is associated with data protection. All these things around it,

00:13:33is a very, very natural partner in the future, where there will be a very high level of naturalness

00:13:39to interact with, without having to enter anything on LinkedIn or anywhere else

00:13:46first. Oh, I have to enter Stetschipti as a comment now so that you send me

00:13:51the best ten Poms, because that won't exist anymore. There will be a completely

00:13:56different natural way and expectation of how things should work.

00:14:01They will look much faster at websites and other two-dimensional

00:14:05content and say, how silly is that? How silly has that actually been,

00:14:10that we look at such things and click around ourselves, partially to

00:14:14obtain certain information. My teddy could do that.

00:14:18Especially while you said that, I imagine the following situations, where you know,

00:14:22perhaps the saying that there are companies where it is said of them,

00:14:27that working there is like in the Flintstones. And when you're at home,

00:14:31it's like with the Dreadstones, because at home you have the cooler IT.

00:14:35I'm imagining that right now. I'm in my living room.

00:14:38I have my Siri there, I have my Apple ecosystem,

00:14:42to get my son Cam out of his children's room.

00:14:44Well, he's not playing with teddy bears anymore,

00:14:46but now, just for the thought experiment, tell me,

00:14:50that his teddy bear is smarter than the Siri in my HomePod.

00:14:55Interesting story, yes, of course.

00:14:58So that means, I think, we can kind of

00:15:01wrap up this part about AI gifts for children.

00:15:07I believe it will come.

00:15:09It's coming, there are already things.

00:15:10You can already order things that are either locally installed or connected to the Internet

00:15:18with AI already integrated into the toys. Is it a smart

00:15:25idea to do this unreflected? I'm not exactly sure. So if

00:15:29you come up with the idea to order something like that, it's best to accompany it, then take a

00:15:32look at what happens, because it’s also interesting for us, as adults, I believe,

00:15:35to play around with such devices. But one or the other can certainly

00:15:39order something, and if you have any tool or toy at home that

00:15:42already works like this, we would love to get feedback. I'm also curious about your

00:15:46opinions on what you find out, what you experience. But now we can also delve a little further

00:15:53into the next topics, because estimating how large this market is is also briefly

00:15:58to look at the market. I think we had somehow researched some numbers before

00:16:01likes. It's a billion-dollar business that we are looking at. And accordingly

00:16:05Because it has been acquired for a year, it will come one way or another.

00:16:07I think there is somehow, I don't know, between 18 and

00:16:11Fantastic-Lion-Jaden back in it. What was it again, I can't remember.

00:16:15I had something with over 40, but up to 20, 32.

00:16:20But there is a lot of truth to that topic.

00:16:23Because the standard toy doesn't exist like Santa anymore.

00:16:29You go into some kind of store, whatever they might all be called.

00:16:32We don't want to advertise.

00:16:34And then you walk through aisles of stuff packaged in plastic,

00:16:39where dolls and bears and crocodiles and I don't know what are for sale,

00:16:45and Carrera track, oh no, another company was mentioned again,

00:16:48so products are available and the boundaries in that sense no longer really separate.

00:16:54But when you start saying, okay, the toys are becoming intelligent,

00:16:59and we also notice that with the other video game, where the residents of the video game are also

00:17:04partially endowed with corresponding AI and you can have conversations with them, then they separate themselves from the market and

00:17:13probably sell this stuff

00:17:15better, and unfortunately, one has to say, sometimes it might even be in the interest of the parents, who then say, I haven't parked the child in front of the iPad, I've parked it in front of the bear,

00:17:25then it learns something more, there’s something more to it, and from that perspective, there’s also something good.

00:17:30Hey, and we don't have to kid ourselves in Europe either. In China, this topic

00:17:34is already taking off, right? So in China, there are masses of AI plush toys that sing at home,

00:17:40laugh, tell stories, and respond. I think we are still a bit behind.

00:17:46being more cautious in the European market, because I think the manufacturers there are also

00:17:50unsure, that falls under data protection and regulation at that moment. Of course,

00:17:55We have often discussed this here, an LMM is also good in behavioral psychology.

00:18:03That means, while it can develop the child into a super child, it could also have a negative influence.

00:18:13I would like to express that again as a reminder, even though we wanted to create a positive episode.

00:18:18That's really exciting, what's happening there again.

00:18:23I'm just imagining because of regulations, you open your child's toy and

00:18:28have to somehow press in the eye to confirm the pop-up banner that from now on your data

00:18:32can be recorded and stuff like that.

00:18:35But well, we also thought today that maybe just before the end, we could

00:18:40touch on the topic of where AI might also help some of our listeners.

00:18:44can help.

00:18:45A little surprise for the loved ones or the not-so-loved ones, yes, good

00:18:50good evil, after you've played with some toys, a little surprise to

00:18:56bring. So I can already give you a heads-up that for those who stick around until the end,

00:19:01I'll be adding a little bonus material because I've been playing around

00:19:06with ZUNU, 11 Labs, or Music GPT about the topic of how one can turn AI terms,

00:19:15AI stories into Christmas music, and now I don’t expect you to send your

00:19:21loved ones a piece of music about AI, but it should be a bit illustrative,

00:19:26that perhaps you can package a personal story with it, and then a

00:19:30personal digital, whether that’s art, I don’t know, yes, people who play music

00:19:37say, greetings go out, say that it's all flat, but it is

00:19:43Yes, a nice recognition and it's a dream and maybe a smile on my face.

00:19:47I would still say, before I take a musical instrument in hand myself.

00:19:51Definitely.

00:19:52It is better for humanity if I gift a song generated by AI.

00:19:56And no matter how many are written, we will not take up the evidence.

00:20:00No, okay, we will not sing or play musical instruments.

00:20:05they play here.

00:20:06But indeed, that’s a nice idea and you can create beautiful things with it.

00:20:10Before we perhaps dive deeper into it. It’s also already like this, I read a statistic that, now for a different little aspect, a third of Germans, now the question is, which survey was that, I believe it was in the Welt, now we’ve placed it, how many they reached there, but a third of Germans who were surveyed, I have to put it this way, stated that they already use Chechipiti or another Caribbean to actually present gifts.

00:20:40to become. So that’s also a certain aspect that can be handled well. So that

00:20:44indeed, when one says, now they are feeding there perhaps without any personal data maybe

00:20:49to enter at the other spot, but anyway about the interests that the other person

00:20:53has, what the sun might have, you can also take photos of the wardrobe or something

00:20:59else and then throw in what would match or something like that. All of this works

00:21:03of course with the AI as well. The AI can wonderfully support in such situations,

00:21:07where you might struggle to find a creative gift idea, it doesn't necessarily

00:21:12have to be an AI gift or an AI-generated gift. It could also just be the AI-generated

00:21:20wish list or needs list that you have, the gift idea in a way,

00:21:26that you then get from the AI to buy the right thing in real life,

00:21:31to buy for ourselves and then maybe surprise your loved ones with it,

00:21:36what a great selection you made.

00:21:38I actually used this shopping assistant from OpenAI recently and to a product,

00:21:45that I'm actually interested in, said, hey, you have it there, I'd like that.

00:21:48He basically confirmed me too, it's a nice feeling to be validated by the all-knowing

00:21:53AI.

00:21:54But it's quite pleasant, because it also adjusts its queries to you

00:21:57as per Timocho.

00:21:58And then you respond beautifully from that side, but do you have anything else,

00:22:03maybe something else that could be conveyed as a digital gift, which would be nice,

00:22:07in line with the song. Yes, I think, as I said, I am still fascinated and still enjoy

00:22:16playing around with it, it's certainly about generating pure images. So, what you can

00:22:22actually do, whether it’s with a co-extreme, which is still

00:22:25super, very creative, but Nano-Banana from Google is slowly becoming a benchmark

00:22:32in many areas, you just have to say, it's already been mentioned that Google

00:22:34is extremely ahead of the curve in many topics.

00:22:38But no matter which tool we use, whether we use any apps that then take some

00:22:44image generation in the background, whether it's from Black Fever Slaps or something else,

00:22:48there are very, very many strong image and video generation tools out there that you can definitely use

00:22:56in a free way, which is usually sufficient, by, for example,

00:23:00in my opinion, taking an old family photo or something and putting it into a funny

00:23:04setting and saying, let’s imagine this family all somehow

00:23:08in a Jetsons scene or in a Futurama version. Yes, there's still something else. I believe,

00:23:14there's still something nice to be done in this image-genre part, which then

00:23:20can also make one or another aunt, grandma, grandpa or something else smile with joy

00:23:26when they perhaps stand next to the famous person. Whatever it may be. There's still

00:23:29has been generated AI on the ideas in the yard.

00:23:31What really didn't hit them?

00:23:33Yes, exactly those kinds of things. So I think there are a few nice things one can do.

00:23:36And especially because you might honestly, even though you always

00:23:41have the feeling that everywhere about AI, you hear it on the radio, on TV.

00:23:45Sometimes it's your own filter bubble, sometimes it's not.

00:23:48But maybe it’s also always a good occasion to have a discussion under the Christmas tree,

00:23:51by generating something like this, perhaps also to discuss with the mother-in-law,

00:23:57mother-in-law, grandmother-in-law, whoever, about what's happening out there, especially to make people a little

00:24:04aware of what might be generated. You can hit two birds with one, it’s like a, what's it called, it’s like a

00:24:10Etio, right, so an education gift, Etio present or something.

00:24:15Yes, I mean, I did for further education of the relatives, so I mean, that is also something we would have discussed among ourselves, but we did not.

00:24:21I went over and took a family photo of us, just in front of the Brandenburg Gate taken in the height of summer.

00:24:26So appropriately dressed too, because it was warm, and then Nano-Banana, yes,

00:24:30others said, hey wait, let’s have the four people,

00:24:33two kids, my wife, me, our dog, let’s do everything in the background like Christmas

00:24:39and let’s keep the foreground as it is. And then you also see, okay,

00:24:43some things he did try to adjust on the face,

00:24:46but otherwise, how quickly a beautiful summery scene,

00:24:50can suddenly be depicted as wintery is also something,

00:24:52and if I can certainly show that to people and from that angle, those are a few nice ideas.

00:24:58Also our podcast covers are also very nice ideas, which Jens has kindly always produced with

00:25:03AI. Yes, on that side, thank you needs to be said here. Jens, today we have 24

00:25:12We're at 25 minutes. Would you like to add something, or do you think we should wrap up our little gift episode today?

00:25:16We'll hear each other again next week, and the

00:25:21today. I don't have anything else. So I just had, like I said, maybe the topic

00:25:28I always associate Christmas with music, with Christmas songs, and something else.

00:25:34Did you catch that I just said music, right? Yes, yes, yes. I think this should be acknowledged,

00:25:40so I still have this, maybe the White Christmas or something else again in the

00:25:46in the version for someone personally connected with stories from the lives of the

00:25:53parents, the children, something else. Maybe you can somehow also give a

00:25:56nice Kaisung as a gift or something like that. I also think that's a nice thing. Just

00:26:02there again, even if we just briefly mentioned it. But I have to say again, I somehow

00:26:07generated a song with Zuno for the handball club.

00:26:13it's still a hit. I think it's great. I like to tune in, and as it is said there,

00:26:20some musicians out there will say, we think it's great when we hear the song

00:26:27and they also love to join in with us in the team. You can definitely generate emotions through AI

00:26:35and emotions are what it’s about. That was the topic in today’s episode. It’s also about emotions,

00:26:41that we generate in the game room at Christmas, and I believe that can be well generated with AI.

00:26:49You can get good advice from AI. I would still say, be a little cautious,

00:26:56if you give AI as a toy. You have to be a bit careful, I believe,

00:27:01still. But this will be a trend that will come, and it will, like AI interacts with us humans,

00:27:09massively push things forward, because our children will later show us

00:27:14how to deal with AI. Therefore, it is important, I believe, to approach these matters early on

00:27:21with a watchful eye, but with an open heart and open eyes.

00:27:25Look, if you mean to hop, it’s in this direction, take a closer look at the matter, listen

00:27:29to our podcast, and otherwise I would say, Mark, have fun with the gift

00:27:34buying or generating, as one might say today. Funny, right? And you don’t even have to

00:27:39buy a gift, you generate gifts.

00:27:41I generate happiness.

00:27:43How nice is that?

00:27:45How nice is that?

00:27:47So, from that side, if you also want to generate happiness, let your friends

00:27:50or acquaintances know that we’re talking about great things related to AI here.

00:27:53Yes, the podcast player you’re listening to is the only one at home.

00:27:57We’re also available on all the other podcast players in the world.

00:28:00So there’s no reason not to listen to us.

00:28:03Jens, thank you very much.

00:28:05I’m off to quickly buy gifts

00:28:07And to all of you out there, as I said, after the credits, a little something for you

00:28:13and at this point, I wish you a reflective, pre-Christmas time.

00:28:18Until the next episode. Bye!

00:28:20Bye! Until the next episode!

00:28:50We are connecting the connection, connected with connection.

00:28:57Algorithms, the legs are unclear.

00:29:01We are calculating joy, for everything to hear.

00:29:05From the cloud over such breadth,

00:29:09we send a peace through the digital crowd.

00:29:12Oh, the cloud is ringing.

00:29:16The logic sounds, it’s my spirit blowing about

00:29:28It’s Christmas, got a present for you

00:29:33You can open it now

00:29:36I want you to, it’s shiny and bright

00:29:40knows all of your interests

00:29:46you can't go wrong

00:31:29I just cry clean, carols in the

00:31:34Snowflakes falling

00:31:36Without a single care

00:31:38Another Christmas

00:31:41Trimming up the tree

00:31:43But this year's different you see

00:31:49No tangled wires

00:31:51On the string of lights

00:31:54My smart home fixes them

00:31:56Shining oh so bright

00:31:58Gingerbread design

00:32:04A perfect algorithm

00:32:06Every single time

00:32:10I have one more point for my Christmas card.

00:32:12I didn’t have to think about it being very hard.

00:32:15The joy smells from the start.

00:32:29Turkey is big and so vast.

00:32:54Perfect, the time in the cows.

00:32:57But as I sit,

00:32:59watching the screws on the glow.

00:33:02There is something misseen,

00:33:04in the falling snow.

00:33:07The human rappers,

00:33:09who are a bit broken-born.

00:33:12Welcome to thinkdifferent, think AI, the podcast by Mark and Jens.

00:34:12Two technology-loving minds who not only talk about artificial intelligence, but

00:34:18they live it.

00:34:19Here you get clear classifications, real practical insights, and a fresh perspective on what is possible

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